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FOX STRATEGY ROOM DEBATE: The debate panel is Frank Gaffney, Robert Spencer, Muslim Tarek Fatah, and Ex-Muslim Nonie Darwash. The topic is Stealth Jihad – Terror From Within. Deep discussions about Sharia, Islamist and Islamization.
As I watched this debate I kept thinking about a video from Muslim apologist Sami Sattari responding to an Acts17Aplogetics video about Sharia in America where he says NO ONE is pushing for Sharia law in America. Here is that video before the debate. Taqueria anyone? I always prefer plenty of pico de gallo on my lies.
At first I was disappointed with the moderator but she hit her stride about half way through and started asking the rights questions. By the time the debate was over, I wished they had time to keep going. GOOD STUFF.
Muslim Tarek Fatah really hit’s a homerun in the fifth video about Liberals and Islam. No Dhimmitude for Atheist, that means heads will roll. The panel then discusses some of the implications of the Gert Wilders trial. The panel wraps up with email from viewers and answers the question does it really do any good to talk about all of this or does it just fan the flames of Muslim hate.
The Doha Debates session debating the House’s belief that Muslim women should be free to marry anyone they choose. The debate was the fifth and final of the 2008-2009 year, filmed on May 25th, 2009 in Qatar.
For the motion are Asra Nomani from America and Muhammad Habash from Syria. Against the motion are Thuraya Al Arrayed from Saudi Arabia and Yasir Qadhi, American Muslim cleric and instructor for AlMaghrib Institute.
NPR SUMMARY: The recent furor over screenings and pat-downs has catapulted airport security back into the spotlight. While travelers have gotten used to shedding their shoes and toting smaller containers of liquid through the security line, should airports be targeting their limited resources differently?
Some advocate the use of racial and religious profiling — specifically, looking for young fundamentalist Muslim males who come from the Middle East, Africa and South Asia. But others counter that profiling just invites terrorist groups to recruit operatives who don’t fit the profile — and that what’s important is looking at behavior. Plus, they say, singling out one group sends a bad message to society and isolates the group in question.
A group of six experts recently took on the subject of profiling at an Intelligence Squared U.S. event. It was three against three in an Oxford-style debate on the motion “U.S. Airports Should Use Racial And Religious Profiling.”
Before the debate, the audience at New York University’s Skirball Center for the Performing Arts voted 37 percent in favor of the motion and 33 percent against, with 30 percent undecided. Afterward, the group arguing for the motion had shifted the most minds — 49 percent of the audience said that “U.S. Airports Should Use Racial And Religious Profiling,” while 40 percent were against. Eleven percent remained undecided.
John Donvan, correspondent for ABC News’ Nightline, moderated the Nov. 22 debate. Those debating:
FOR THE MOTION
Robert Baer was a CIA case officer in the Directorate of Operations from 1976 to 1997 and served in countries in the Middle East, including Iraq and Lebanon. He is the author of two New York Times best-sellers: Sleeping with the Devil, about the Saudi royal family and its relationship with the United States; and See No Evil, which recounts Baer’s years as a top CIA operative and was the basis for the acclaimed film Syriana. He is Time.com’s intelligence columnist and has contributed to Vanity Fair, The Wall Street Journal and The Washington Post. Baer is a frequent commentator and author about issues related to international relations, espionage and U.S. foreign policy.
Deroy Murdock is a syndicated columnist with the Scripps Howard News Service and media fellow with the Hoover Institution on War, Revolution and Peace at Stanford University. His column, “This Opinion Just In…,” reaches approximately 400 newspapers across America each week. He is a frequent guest on CNN, Fox News Channel, MSNBC and other TV and radio outlets. He has lectured or debated at Boston College, the Cato Institute, the Council on Foreign Relations and the Heritage Foundation, among many other venues.
Asra Q. Nomani, a former reporter for The Wall Street Journal for 15 years, is the author of Standing Alone: An American Woman’s Struggle for the Soul of Islam. She is co-director of the Pearl Project, an investigation into the murder of Wall Street Journal reporter Daniel Pearl. Her activism for women’s rights at her mosque in West Virginia is the subject of The Mosque in Morgantown, a PBS documentary. She recently published a monograph, Milestones for a Spiritual Jihad: Toward an Islam of Grace.
AGAINST THE MOTION
Hassan Abbas is Quaid-i-Azam professor at Columbia University’s School of International and Public Affairs. He is also a senior adviser at the Belfer Center for Science and International Affairs at Harvard’s Kennedy School of Government and Bernard Schwartz fellow at Asia Society in New York. Abbas has also been a visiting fellow at the Islamic Legal Studies Program at Harvard Law School and a visiting scholar at the school’s Program on Negotiation. Prior to his academic career, Abbas served as a Pakistani government official in the administrations of Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto and President Pervez Musharraf and in the Police Service of Pakistan.
Debra Burlingame is the sister of Charles F. “Chic” Burlingame III, pilot of American Airlines Flight 77, which crashed into the Pentagon on Sept. 11, 2001. She is the co-founder of 9/11 Families for a Safe and Strong America and a director of the National September 11 Memorial and Museum Foundation at the World Trade Center. She has published featured articles for The Wall Street Journal and other publications on national security issues. Burlingame was formerly a producer at Court TV, and prior to her career in television was an attorney in New York City.
Michael Chertoff served as secretary of the Department of Homeland Security from 2005 to 2009. Before that, he was a federal judge on the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Third Circuit, and a federal prosecutor for more than a decade, investigating and prosecuting cases of political corruption, organized crime, corporate fraud and terrorism — including the investigation of the 9/11 terrorist attacks. He is currently co-founder and managing principal of the Chertoff Group and senior of counsel at Covington & Burling LLP. Copyright 2010 National Public Radio. To see more, visit http://www.npr.org/
If you have not heard about the Aramaic Broadcasting Network (ABN) at ABNsat.com, you really should check them out! They are simply the best Counter-Jihad and Islam Exposure Ministry or Organization out there!!! This post and my task here is to convince you of the same, so that you will take a look, learn and tell others while we all benefit from the unique and great work they do at ABN.
ABN is a TV/Media ministry that reaches around the globe through a satellite channel and 9 online video streams (1 is 24/7 live) showing ABN exclusively produced material that will knock your socks off and could play a major roll in saving the West, through educating the masses, from the encroaching dangers of Islam. As I mentioned on the about page for this blog, I have spent almost every waking moment studying Islam since 9/9/10 and ABN is by far the most important organization I have found yet. ABN has been producing and broadcasting it’s own video content for six years in the Aramaic, Arabic and English languages that are aimed at exposing orthodox Islam while witnessing the Gospel of Jesus Christ to Muslims and the rest of the world. They are set to start up an ALL NEW ENGLISH ONLY CHANNEL on 1/20/11 that will be aimed at warning and educating the western english speaking world about the dangers of Islam and its goal to be the only religion practiced on earth, or as the Koran says, “all religion becomes Allah’s religion“. Islams intent and tactics are clearly exposed on ABN for us all to see.
Current live call in English shows are Jesus or Muhammad, Jihad Exposed, News and Views, Answering Islam and others. Other shows will be added after the new channel launches. Best of all ABN simply has the best Christian apologists that debate Muslim apologist, special guest and callers. One such special guest was Sheikh Omar Bakri Muhammad who lives in London but was just recently sentenced to life in prison for teaching terrorist trainees how to make explosives. The Shiekh was scheduled to be on the Jihad Exposed show throughout the winter but did not make his third appearance. You can see Sheikh Omar on the episode he did make called “Would Sharia help the West?” here and here. Anjem Choudary and Sheikh Abu Salim Abu Omar sometimes appear on Jihad Exposed. And they have other Muslim leaders on to debate in the Arabic. Some Christian speakers/debaters have been Ex terrorist Walid Shoebat and Kamal Sameel. Ex -muslim Noni Darwish has been on Jihad Exposed. Some apologist who have been on the various shows are Osma Dadok, Dr. James White, Zak Anani, Emory Moss, Matt Slick, IQ Rasooli, Pastor Joseph, Mary Jo Sharp, Tony Costa, David Wood, Robert Spencer, Theodore Shoebat, Sam Shomoun and others – including lay apologist, both Christian and Muslim. When the new channel starts they will have a Friday Night Debate Night that is sure to be very interesting.
Besides the satellite channel and the main site ABNsat.com, ABN also has 4 different YouTube channels for their Aramaic, Arabic and English shows with a main channel here; a video repository website called ABNtube and a presence on FaceBook and Twitter. You can also purchase ABN products here to help support the ministry. That leads to my next point.
Please take a good look at ABN and see if you can support them to help start the new channel. They are trying to raise 400,000 dollars to launch by 1/20/11. This may sound like a big number but I was just reading the other day at one of my other top five favorite websites FreeRepublic.com that it cost them 300,000 dollars a year to run their site and it is just like a big bulletin/discussion board, chat room and a huge collection of articles and post. I have avoided using any hyperbole and superlatives to describe ABN but it would not be an exaggeration to say you will be doing your part to save the free world by supporting ABN. ABN is the only media outlet there is that is telling the full truth about Islam and has the potential to really reach the masses. SO CHECK OUT AND SUPPORT ABN AND SAVE THE FREE WORLD from Islamification.
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H/T to Citizen Warrior
The motion: “Islam is dominated by radicals”
Moderator: Robert Siegel. Speaking for the motion: Daveed Gartenstein-Ross, Paul Marshall and Asra Q. Nomani. Speaking against the motion: Reza Aslan, Richard W. Bulliet and Edina Lekovic
Before the debate, the audience held these positions: 46% were for the motion, 32% were against the motion, 22% were undecided
After the debate, the audience was polled again. The results were: 73% were for the motion, 23% were against the motion, 4% were undecided
It is unfortunate that this full video on Vimeo loses audio about half way through, but here it is from youtube in 15 parts.
I really enjoyed this debate. It is one of those that the Muslims actually admit the point of the debate. One example of this is when Nadir Ahmed slipped and said “We are not really a religion of peace, unless Jizya is paid” when debating Sam Shamoun on the topic of “Is Islam a religion of peace”. In this video Edina Lekovic admits the motion twice by saying “moderate scholars” and other people are working day in and day out to “re-emerge as the dominant force in their faith” and “regain ground” and “wrestle back our communities”. You’ll also get to see Reza Aslan show his true colors and show he is not really a “moderate”.
Hat-Tip to AtlasShrugs
Renowned scholars Robert Spencer and Peter Kreeft engage in discussion and debate on the topic “The only good Muslim is a bad Muslim”. An enlightening theological exploration into one of the most important issues of our age.
H/T to AnwseringMuslims.com
This was an excellent debate. A lot of minds were changed about Islam at NYU. It’s amazing what can happen when the facts are laid out.
In the aftermath of the Sept. 11 attacks, President George W. Bush characterized Islam as a religion of peace. Many people agree with that belief, saying the vast majority of Muslims live peaceful lives.
But others counter that the roots of Islam include violent leaders, teachings and scripture.
A team of experts argued both sides of the motion “Islam Is a Religion of Peace” in a recent Intelligence Squared U.S. debate. Two argued in favor and two against.
Before the Oxford-style debate at New York University’s Skirball Center for the Performing Arts, the audience voted 41 percent in favor of the motion and 25 percent against. Thirty-four percent were undecided. After the debate, however, 55 percent disagreed that “Islam Is a Religion of Peace,” 36 percent supported the motion and 9 percent were still unsure.
John Donvan, correspondent for ABC News’ Nightline, moderated the Oct. 6 debate. Source
FOR THE MOTION
Maajid Nawaz is director of the Quilliam Foundation. Formerly, Nawaz served in the U.K. national leadership for the Islamist party Hizb ut-Tahrir and was involved in HT for almost 14 years. He was a founding member of HT in Denmark and Pakistan. He eventually served four years in an Egyptian prison and was adopted by Amnesty International as a “prisoner of conscience.” In prison, Maajid gradually began changing his views until he finally renounced the Islamist ideology for traditional Islam and inclusive politics. He now engages in counter-Islamist thought-generating, writing and debating.
Zeba Khan is a writer and advocate for Muslim-American civic engagement. Born and raised in Ohio by devout Muslim parents, she attended Hebrew school for nine years while actively participating in her local Muslim community. In 2008, she launched Muslim-Americans for Obama, an online network to mobilize Muslim-American voters in support of the Obama presidential campaign. Since then, she continues to work on issues of Muslim-American civic engagement and was recognized for her work by the American Society for Muslim Advancement as a 2009 Muslim Leader of Tomorrow.
AGAINST THE MOTION
Ayaan Hirsi Ali was born in Somalia and raised a devout Muslim. She escaped an arranged marriage by immigrating to the Netherlands in 1992 and served as a member of the Dutch parliament for three years. She has since become an active critic of fundamentalist Islam, an advocate for women’s rights and a leader in the campaign to reform Islam. She has also become a target of death threats by Islamic extremists. Hirsi Ali is a resident fellow at the American Enterprise Institute and author of The Caged Virgin (2006), Infidel (2007) and Nomad (2010). She is the founder of the AHA Foundation, whose mission is to defend the rights of women in the West against militant Islam and tribal custom.
Douglas Murray is a best-selling author and award-winning journalist. He is also founder and director of the Centre for Social Cohesion, a nonpartisan think-tank in Westminster, London, that focuses on radicalization and has published work on both Islamist and far-right extremism. Murray is a columnist for Standpoint magazine and writes for many other publications. In 2005, he published the critically acclaimed Neoconservatism: Why We Need It, which Christopher Hitchens praised as “a very cool but devastating analysis.” He is a co-author of the NATO strategy report, “Towards a Grand Strategy for an Uncertain World: Renewing Transatlantic Partnership.”
Peace and violence in Christianity and Islam, Shadid Lewis vs. David Wood, Hamtpon Roads Mosque, Hampton, VA, May 30th, 2009
Rebuttals and Conclusions
Rebuttals and Q&A
Representing the Muslim perspective was Nadir Ahmed: Nadir is a Muslim apologist backed by the Islamic Center of Peoria,
He has held debates with figures such as Matt Slick, David Wood, Dr. Richard Carrier and Dr. James White.
Representing the Christian side was Sam Shamoun: Sam is a Christian Apologist , Debater and Evangelist, Born in Kuwait, Sam moved with his family to the US at the tender age of 2 years old.
Sam’s religious upbringing was based on the teachings found in most Assyrian homes, the Church of the East (more commonly known as the Nestorian Church).
Mr. Shamoun lectures and teaches across the country and is a regular guest speaker for many leading missionary and Christian education organizations.
The Topic of Debate: Is Islam a Religion of Peace?
Nadir Ahmed (www.Examinethetruth.com)
Sam Shamoun (www.Answering-Islam.org)
(Hope International University, Fullerton, California, USA November 3rd, 2007)